Reverse Engineering

“So, let us dive into that. That is the Bigelow Aerospace, correct?”

“And then, in 2009 timeframe, when I came back to the Pentagon after a tour with the Director of National Intelligence, I quickly became part of a program that was originally called AAWSAP. That evolved into the program now called AATIP, which is where those videos that we now see, the GOFAST, the GIMBAL, the FLIR, that was part of our effort, sir.”

“When it comes to material that we have, we have no material. We have detected no emanations within the UAP Task Force that is -- that would suggest it is anything nonterrestrial in origin.”

“In terms of material, that is given to private contractors, is certain material given to certain contractors because of their experience? So, for example, if it is related to submerged and undersea propulsion, would it go to a general contractor like General Dynamics?”

“Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over 4 years.”

“There is documentation, that I believe was submitted for the record, that was approved for release by the U.S. Pentagon, by the Department of Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review. And it states that one of the reasons why my predecessor program, AAWSAP, was trying to collect material of unknown origin”

“The first section talks about the unacknowledged special access program called Immaculate Constellation, and the second section about USG imagery intelligence.”

“And I would now—Committee staff asked me to go ahead, and I will do it, to enter into the Congressional Record this 12-page document that Michael Shellenberger brought today that describes the Immaculate Constellation government program. So, we will do that now. Every Member up here has a copy of it.”

“Mr. Grusch, in your sworn testimony you state that the U.S. Government has retrieved supposedly extraterrestrial spacecraft and other UAP-related artifacts. You go so far as to state that the U.S. is in possession of, quote, ''nonhuman spacecraft,'' end quote, and that some of these artifacts have circulated with defense contractors.”

“Last question, have our encounters with UAPs altered the development of our -- either of offensive or defensive capabilities or even our sensor capabilities?”

“Additionally, are you aware of any other DOD or DOD contract programs focused on UAPs from a technological engineering perspective? And by that, I mean, are you aware of any technology initiatives focused on this topic, other than initiatives focused on the individual case investigations?”

“Are we holding materials, organic or inorganic, that we don't know about? Are we, you know, picking up emanations that are something other than light or infrared that could be deemed to be communications?”

“without discernible means of propulsion, I would say that we are not aware of any adversary that can move an object without discernible means of propulsion.”

“I will just touch on the whistleblower side of it. I do encourage, you know, current and former military, intelligence community, and industry contractors to come forward in a legal way, either through the IC or DoD or whatever the cognizant IGs are to join me in this discussion.”

“Last year, as you know, he testified that the U.S. has run a multi-decade UAP crash, retrieval, and reverse engineering program. Would you agree with that?”

“We know there are advanced technology programs. Almost 15 years ago, one of those came out of area 51 to go after Osama bin Laden. And the only reason we know about that is because one of those helicopters was downed.”

“Are there any known instances of recovered materials or technologies that are not of human origin and may be connected to any advanced bioscience defense programs within the USG?”

“Yes, and here is why. The technology that we faced was far superior than anything that we had, and you could put that anywhere. If you had one, you captured one, you reverse engineered it, you got it to work, you are talking something that can go into space, go someplace, drop down in a matter of seconds, do whatever it wants, and leave and there is nothing we can do about it. Nothing.”

“Yes, I can speak to that very briefly in an unclassified manner. As you know, the preponderance of my complaint was classified to the intelligence communities. Both material acquisition and exploitation activity, also baselining the UAPs but not sharing it with, you know, intelligence professionals that are actually doing step briefs to pilots, that kind of information.”

“Not to my knowledge. Plus, the recoveries predate a lot of our advanced programs that I previously am waiving off. So——”

“I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access to those additional read-ons when I requested it.”

“should one of our adversaries have developed a technology that we don't know about it, we need to know about it yesterday.”

“You have said that U.S. has intact spacecraft. You said that the government has alien bodies or alien species. Have you seen—have you seen the spacecraft?”

“And in the UAP space? That is all that—they would not do submerged?”

“If they are developed by an adversary through some breakthrough technology, they can be very disruptive to our military actions or at least serve as a destruction.”

“terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin”

“publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material”

“Furthermore, the U.S. is in possession of UAP technologies, as are some of our adversaries.”

“publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material”

“The existence of complex historical programs involving the coordinated retrieval and study of exotic materials, dating back to the early 20th century, should no longer remain a secret”