Disinformation

“In addition, they tried to have me question very valid UAP reports like the Tic Tac incident, even coming to a—stating possibly that the Tic Tac was American technology. And then, of course, if you ask David Fravor or Alex Dietrich, the two witnesses, they were convinced it was otherwise.”

“Mr. Knapp wrote since 1969, the position of our military has been that UFOs posed no threat to national security and are not worthy of further study.”

“However, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the Director of AARO, previously testified before Congress that there has been, and I quote, ''no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity'' or of, quote, ''off-world technology brought to the attention of the office.'' To your knowledge, is that statement correct?”

“Earlier this year, I met with the DoD's All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, and what I thought would be a 90-minute meeting just to meet with leadership turned out to be an hours-long influence operation on me, where I was—they attempted to convince me of the validity of the very flawed and error-ridden historical records report.”

“Most Americans would be shocked to learn that the Pentagon's very own public affairs office openly employs a professional psychological operations officer as the singular point of contact for any UAP-related inquiries from citizens and the media. This is unacceptable.”

“In your written testimony, you claim last year's UAP hearing before this Oversight Committee confirmed that UAP-related information is—well, it is not only being withheld, but that elements of the government are engaging in a disinformation campaign, to in-clude personal attacks designed to discredit UAP whistleblowers. Could you elaborate on that statement a little?”

“You heard Mr. Elizondo describe psychological operations for those contacting the Department of Defense about UAPs. You mentioned a similar influence operation by AARO. Why are Federal agencies invested in running information operations about UAPs if they do not exist?”

“Equally concerning, last year's UAP hearing also revealed that elements of the government are engaged in a disinformation campaign, to include personal attacks designed to discredit UAP whistleblowers.”

“And then—and they also cast discredit on various UAP whistleblowers and witnesses to—Question their validity and credibility as witnesses.”

“It is not accurate. I believe Dr. Kirkpatrick mentioned he had about 30 individuals that have come to AARO thus far. A few of those individuals have also come to AARO that I also interviewed.”

“Do you have any information that the U.S. Government is involved in a disinformation campaign to deny the existence of certain UAPs?”

“Sir, that is a great question. I would ask the Pentagon. There is a long history here of that individual providing misleading and false information to the public through various news outlets and media outlets in order to discredit this topic. I have personally been victim to it. We have the documentation to substantiate where this information has been absolutely inaccurate that has been provided time and time again. And it turns out that that individual was also working with former leadership of AARO at the time as well.”

“If you reference my News Nation interview and I talked about a multi-decade, you know, campaign to disenfranchise public interest, basically.”

“Well, they also contribute to the undermining of the confidence that the Congress and the American people have that we are trying to get to the root cause of what is happening here and report on that, and then feed that back into our national security apparatus so we are able to protect the American people and our allies.”

“I can't give you, you know, any examples where somebody has been legally held liable for putting something out there, but --”

“OK. Has there been any—has there been an active U.S. Government disinformation campaign to deny the existence of unidentified aerial phenomena and, if so, why?”

“So one of the concerns that we have is that there are a lot of individuals and groups that are putting information out there that that could be considered to be somewhat self-serving.”

“Previously with, like, Project Bluebook, yes, but currently I do not speak for the U.S. Government.”

“As previously stated publicly, yes.”

“It almost looks like AARO operated as a counterintelligence operation to get people to come in, tell their stories, and then discredit all of them.”

“It is a manipulation of the public perception. The statement ''scientific evidence of extraterrestrials'' is a true statement. It is not the truth about what is happening and what we have.”

“Entirely possible. I mean, they have—our government and other governments have admitted that they have tried to use UFOs to cover secret projects.”

“The government has for decades denied any interest in UFOs. He told me that the documents that he has assembled showed that behind the scenes, it was a completely different story.”

“He also goes on to talk about the dismissive attitude is at odds with what was revealed in documents, reports, and internal memos.”

“I cannot go beyond what I have already stated publicly in my News Nation interview because it touches other sensitivities.”

“information that might be injected into our media by other forces or other countries”

“I don't know. I don't have that answer. That is something that, you know -- I would welcome a dialogue with Congress to talk about that with the Members who, you know, helped legislate those laws to say, what should be the legal ramifications that we could use to potentially hold individuals accountable, whether the citizens or information that might be injected into our media by other forces or other countries, if you will?”

“What you stated publicly in your interviews for the congressional Record.”

“So, just taking that a step further, that misinformation, false narratives, manufactured -- so what are the consequences? Are there legal consequences? Are there examples that you can give us where people have been held accountable by this misinformation or disinformation?”

“OK. I have been told to ask you what that is and how to get it in the record.”