Tic Tac

“My crew that launched after we landed experienced significant jamming to the APG–73 radar, which was what we had on board, which is a mechanically scan very high-end system prior to the APG–79 and, yes, it did pretty much everything you could do—range, velocity, aspect—and then it split the lock, then the targeting pod is passive. That is what we were able to get the video on.”

“OK. I would also like to note for the record that, like George Knapp, Breaking Area 51, he is the reason I knew about that, and the reason I know about the Tic Tacs is because Leslie Keane from a New York Times article and I would encourage everybody to read that.”

“Certainly. Like many others in 2017, I saw the New York Times article come out as well and for me it was special because I recognized the voices on the video. I recognize the video itself. I had seen it when it was taken. I had seen it when it was debriefed.”

“No. I think it is far beyond, actually, our material science that we currently possess.”

“I will say we did not see an object. There was something there to cause the whitewater and when we turned around it was gone. So, there was something there that obviously moved.”

“No. We actually joked that the Tic Tac was communicating with something when we came back and—because the whitewater disappeared.”

“Are you aware of any other reconnaissance platforms have tracked or recorded the Tic Tac's maneuvers, maybe the NORAD system or any of the others?”

“OK. It was not the same object, though, that you were looking at, correct?”

“And you are not aware of any other objects that anybody in the world has in this world that has those capabilities?”

“Mr. Fravor, do you believe that you witnessed an additional object under the water in relation to your encounter?”

“We were—in another instance—were told about the capabilities of a jamming during viewing of some—when there were some people chasing some of these objects. Did you experience any of that jamming or interrupting your radar or weapons system?”

“The performance. Absolute performance. It was——”

“Mr. Fravor, what astonished you the most about the flight capabilities of these Tic Tac, very briefly?”

“I am not.”